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EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
10/17/2007, 12:30-2:00 pm
ATTENDEES: David
Gillett, Beth Grobman, Jeanine Hawk, Scott Heffner, Stan Judkins, Sherri
Mines, Jerry Rosenberg, Alex Swanner, Tim Woods
GUESTS: Sharon Luciw, Chien Shih, Bob Barr
Convened: 12:30pm
1. WELCOME BACK/APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
OF THE LAST MEETING (Sharon)
· Did
introductions
New members:
1) Tim Woods – New division dean for
Computer Science at FH
2) Gerry Rosenberg – Substituting for
John Swensson
· 6/20/07
Minutes will stand approved as posted
2. GENERAL NEWS (ALL)
3. EIS UPDATE (Chien)
· The
main events coming up are the vendor demonstrations
SunGard will be on campus October 22nd – October
26th
Datatel will be on campus October 29th – November
2nd
The location for these demonstrations is
D260
The entire schedule can be found on the EIS
web site at: <a
href="http://www.fhda.edu/eis/documents">http://www.fhda.edu/eis/documents by
clicking on the vendor demonstration schedule
The scores of the official scorers will be
counted and the casual scorers (those individuals that drop in during a
session) will be referenced relative to the official scorer
· Training
for the official scorers of the demonstrations has been set up for this
week (October 15th and October 17th)
Have about 87 official scorers that will
attend both sessions
· Site
visits
1) Datatel site – Have set up and confirmed
a site visit for November 5th with Contra Costa Community
College, from 9:00 AM – 4:30 PM
2) SunGard site - Working on the San Mateo
Community College District, which is slated for Wednesday, November 7th
Both of these sites were approved by the
steering based upon certain criteria approved by the committee: 1) proximity
to our college; 2) the size of FTE's; 3) installation schedule – they
have to have the full product in place and operating for a while in a
stable condition
Will be meeting with all the functional sponsor
teams, the experts in their team, members of the steering committee and
IT staff
Jeanine is unable to attend the steering
committee meetings because of a conflict with the District Bond Oversight
meeting
Jeanine is concerned that if the attendance
at the steering committee meetings isn't very high and decisions for recommendations
of what elements of a proposal may or may not be acceptable is very critical,
that it should be done at a Senior Staff meeting or Technology Committee
or at an additional forum
Chien has sought advise from the senior leadership
from both campuses and is willing to listen and work with any suggestions
If steering committee members cannot attend
the meetings, Chien has offered to brief them individually or in a group,
so this should not be an issue
Since instruction hasn't been participating
fully, Jeanine's concern is that decisions are made and then it hits the
fan when people's expectations aren't being met down the road
Chien is willing to do a briefing and Jeanine
invited him to the next Tech Task Force meeting at DA in two weeks
Wants him to go over what the considerations
are in terms of selecting items from one contractor to the other. Some
of the demos will have been completed and Jeanine will do every thing she
can to get folks from instruction to attend the Tech Force Meeting
Jeanine will work with Chien on an agenda
for the meeting and get it well advertised
Right now is a very critical point and Chien
would like to get every ones support, participation and advice
· Have
already held two sessions with the steering committee on the best and final
pricing selection criteria
Hope to come up with a draft for the best
and final pricing proposal and statement of work to be reviewed by the
steering committee members in next week's steering committee
· Currently
on schedule with accomplishing the tasks that need to be accomplished
4. SECURITY ISSUES (Sharon)
5. MAUI REPLACEMENT UPDATE (Bob)
· In
the process of replacing the MAUI reporting system with a Hyperion reporting
system
Currently working on the most popular MAUI
reports
· Biggest success so far, was purchasing the Hyperion
system, which enabled a group of Brio 6 users to get updates to their client
version of the software and are now running Hyperion 9
· Could
not access the MAUI databases directly so they had to be converted from
an RDB format to a SQL server format
This has been done for the SI database, through
the IR office data warehouse
Have learned how to automatically update
the data warehouse for the current term, on an hourly bases
Data for the past five quarters, is being
updated overnight
There are two other databases to convert:
FR & HR
Will convert the FR database first because
people use the MAUI reports to access it and there are no MAUI reports
for the HR database
The conversion of the FR database is not
going as smoothly as first thought and therefore not complete
The Hr database is usually accessed with
a Brio query
· Purchased
two servers, a production server and development server
· Have
been working on developing Hyperion reports or templates that mimic those
in MAUI, for the SI reporting
Jerrick Woo has completed four or five reports
The current reports need some tweaking with
final versions in a month or two
Current users of these MUAI reports will
be asked to test the Hyperion replacement reports and revisions will be
made based on their feedback
Hoping to have the reports available by the
beginning of winter term for anyone who wants to access the SI database
· The
current debate going on, is whether to provide Hyperion access through
a terminal server or over the web – the initial idea was to do it
over the web
The terminal server would be much simpler
to maintain than the web server and have already had some complications
with the web server
The only problem with the terminal server
is glitches with printing to your own local printer
Still weighing the pros and cons, and it
might be useful to have access via the two vehicles
There is more research and investigation
that has to be done on the technical side
· Scott
ask if a terminal server is used, would access to it be lost when off site
According to Bob, access wouldn't be lost
if a VPN (virtual private network) was set up
No matter if the decision is to go with the
terminal server or over the web, the functionality will not be reduced
· Bob
doesn't feel that there will be more than 30-50 concurrent users using
the system at any given moment
Scott feels this quantity is low, if you
open the utility to faculty
· Beth
wanted to know how the faculty, who need to use the new system, will be
notified when it is available, get trained on it and told what software
to use
According to Bob this has not yet been worked
out
Wanted to create Hyperion reports that mimic
MAUI as closely as possibly in order to reduced training to a minimum
Hyperion is very user friendly and probably
won't take much training
Will need to plan for training when the reports
go beyond MAUI and new reports and ad hoc analysis are being created – probably
won't begin happening until spring quarter
For now, faculty should continue using MAUI
to access student records
Faculty can, through the Portal, get access
to their class rosters and their grades, etc.
· It
was suggested, that departments that require the use of MAUI and are in
the process of getting new MAC's, keep one of the old MAC's for generating
MAUI reports until the Hyperion reports are available
6. HARDWARE STANDARDS UPDATE (Sharon)
They were eliminating the 17" iMAC and we
had to move our desktop standard to a 20" iMAC, with no price change
· Sharon
has scheduled the first meeting for the 07/08 academic year on Tuesday,
October 30th, at 3:30 PM in the DA El Milagro Room
Will schedule the remaining meetings
for the academic year and post the agendas for each of those meetings
First meeting will talk about the change
in the configuration of the Apple desktop
Will take a look at the Dell, because it
remains a 17" monitor
· If anyone wants to join or leave the committee they
can e-mail Sharon
7. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS (ALL)
· Have
concluded Phase I of the ID Management System for both colleges. Faculty,
staff and student information has been centralized into one single database.
In order to choose the best value for both colleges', Chien would like
to discuss the up coming proposals that will further develop the database
(the integration options).
· An
update on where we are with updating our network
· An
update on wireless
A note from Sharon - for the start of fall
term, wireless was rolled out into the dinning areas at both campus centers.
This is in addition to having it in the libraries on each campus.
8. ADJOURNMENT
· Adjourned:
1:30 pm
Next Meeting: November 21, 2007, 12:30 – 2:00, via video conferencing
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