EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
5/16/2007, 1:00-2:30 pm
ATTENDEES: David
Gillett, Scott Heffner, Chuck Lindauer, Kent McGee, Sherri Mines, Mike
Murphy, Fred Sherman, Alex Swanner, John Swensson
GUESTS: Sharon Luciw, Chien Shih, Bob Barr
Convened: 1:07pm
1. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST
MEETING
· Will
stand approved as posted
2. GENERAL NEWS (ALL)
4. Resolved the problem of computer storage, on the
DA campus, by getting some space in the basement of the old bookstore and
getting two trailers in lot H on the FH campus to help with moving equipment
in and out
5. Going to leverage the movers at FH to help with lower
campus and campus center
6. During the summer, in order to increase the volume
of deployments on both campuses, in the interim before we move past the
factory imaging and go to vendor services for deployment into the labs
for the refresh of equipment, ETS will be increasing the number of temporary
staff they are going to hire
3. STANDARDS REVIEW
– COST OF AN AVERAGE COMPUTER (SHARON)
· The
over all average cost (using ETS inventory numbers) for PC & MAC, desktops
and laptops is $1,906.45
With approval, faculty and staff can upgrade
from the current standards, which are ment to be the 90% solution
· The average replacement cost for only desktop computers
is $2,169.56
· At the last HW & SW Standards meeting on
May1st, there was a discussion to go from a 15 inch to the 13 inch MAC
laptop
4. ID MANAGEMENT UPDATE (CHIEN)
5. MAUI REPLACEMENT (BOB)
· Bob
has a report, on the MAUI replacement, that can be distributed electronically
· Have
been making progress at a very slow rate due to unexpected, major challenges
Wanted to buy a tool (bought Hyperion/Brio)
that would clone existing MAUI reports
Needed to be able to query our existing RDB
databases
Challenge #1 - Hyperion, as well as any of
the other available tools, approaches a query and a report in a structurally
different way than MAUI (a home grown system, developed on the MAC).
It would be very difficult to create a Hyperion report that looks and
feels exactly the way MAUI reports feel – can produce the same
results, the same databases, the same formatted out comes, but it would
be done in a different way, not immediately familiar to MAUI end users
Challenge #2 - Had a miscommunication with
the vendor regarding our Oracle RDB databases - they understood it to be
Oracles' regular standard databases, which it isn't
Not as crucial a problem as it could have
been since we were considering the purchase of a new database
This miscommunication resulted in a substantial
savings in training materials for the ETS staff
· It turns out that we are better off restructuring our
reports
1) It
expands the capabilities of the report to be able to query several terms
at one time, instead of only one term at a time as with MAUI
2) Have
a system that is much more efficient on both the end user end and the
back end
3) The
Oracle database is a legacy database format which is going to disappear
and we are going to have to convert over sooner or later to a new database
· We
are now in the process of converting our legacy Oracle database to SQL
server
IR has owned a SQL server for some time
Have already created a data warehouse in
SQL
· Have
decided to start with the FR part because the current MAUI reports in FR
are considerably simpler than those in SI
Ran into problems when trying to load Fr
into the SQL server
Crashed the server when trying to do the
loading
Purchased a more powerful development server
and installed SQL 2005 on it
In the process of installing FR on it
· MAUI
databases are updated seven times a day for SI and 3 or4 times for FR and
at least once a night for HR
Needed to find a way to automate the refresh
of the SQL versions of the RDB and are now able to update hourly for the
current term and every night for the last five terms
Bob thanked Lourdes Del Rio-Parent & Jim
Clow for their excellent work on the project
· Already
had MAUI SI created in the Research data warehouse called Deborah, so it
didn't need to be recreated but figured out how to update it
Can now start to make SI clones in Hyperion
Have a duplicate database of Deborah called
Francine, which is a major subset of Deborah and contains the students
alternate ID's instead of their SSN, and therefore a more secure database
to open up to a wider group of users
· In
the process of converting RDB databases into SQL Server databases
(restructuring of the databases so they are more efficient to use, and
enable greater capabilities in Ad-Hoc and MAUI type reporting when doing
the queries)
· Starting to create a group of pilot usersbr
· Hope to have the FR database
up and running, in SQL, by the end of summer; soon after the HR database – which
is last because no one uses MAUI to access the HR database, at this time
only Hyperion or Brio are used
· Over
the summer will start creating MAUI FR replacement reports and push those
out to a test group in fall
Hope to open up to all MAUI FR users by the
end of fall
Will be able to access reports through a
client version of Hyprion or on the web
· Have
an unlimited license for Hyperion for client users
Joe Lampo's group has figured out how to
put the software on a server so you can fire up the application from
a server instead of your own hard drive –
this reduces installation and connection work
The client version does not work on the MAC,
which is another reason for having a web version.
If you have an Intel MAC and are willing
to boot it up on the Windows side, you can use the client version
Scott ask how a MAUI SI user is determined
Bob responded that at the beginning of the
project they tried to identify how many MAUI users there were
If a MAUI user uses a particular MAUI report,
the user can be set up with an account and then it can be made available
to them
To set up an authentication system on the
Hyperion server is a lot of work
Looking to the ID Management system to provide
the authentication to the MAUI server
· Will be able to access as an external application from
within the portal
On the client version, once you sign in on
the portal, then you will be able to click on a link and fire up Hyperion
On the web version you will be authenticated
in, once you sign on to the portal
· According
to Chuck, the use of MAUI by the administrators at FH, has dropped drastically
since many of the reports they use can be gotten through the Portal
· Currently
not in cube form
Have thought about creating cubes
Think that the cubes can be created relatively
easily from the warehouse data
6. ETAC MEETING TIMES
At the time, Scott mentioned that he would
be okay with the time change for winter and spring quarters, but not for
fall quarter
Scott requested a 12:30 PM start time for
fall quarter only, with no changes to the day and then a change back to
the current 1:00 PM start time for the winter and spring quarters
If this can not be done, Scott will have
to work it out from his end
· Chuck
brought up the fact that if the start time should be moved back for the
fall quarter, and FH staff what to go to college hour, that they can either
miss half an hour of college hour once a month or miss ETAC
· It
was decided to move the start time for ETAC meetings back to 12:30 PM for
the fall quarter and then back to the 1:00 PM start time for the winter
and spring quarters
7. ADJOURNMENT
· Adjourned: 2:30
pm
Next Meeting: Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 1:00 – 2:30, via video
conferencing